Veganism does not work. All people in 2011 should know this by now. You can use temporary raw veganism as a detox method, but that is all it is good for. Humans are true omnivores and no amount of brainwashing will convince your body to heal without crucial animal foods. Young Turkish Erin Bilgin found out that socializing with the raw vegans can be hazardous to your health and social circles if you don’t tow their line.

Interview With an Ex-Vegan: Erim Bilgin

Erim Bilgin was born and raised in Istanbul, Turkey. Unhappy with being overweight at 14, he developed an eating disorder. He fought anorexia for a year before deciding to learn more about health and optimal nutrition, which led him to raw veganism and 30 Bananas a Day — a site for vegans following the low fat raw vegan (LFRV) lifestyle that Dr. Douglas Graham proselytizes. Graham says the optimal macronutrient ratio for humans is 80/10/10: 80 percent of calories from carbohydrates, 10 percent from fat and 10 percent from protein. This means a diet of raw fruits and vegetables, but mostly fruits, a program that Erim obediently followed for three years.

Posting under the alias “Apple-Man,” Erim was a frequent and welcome contributor to the 30 Bananas a Day message board, until he recently quit veganism at the age of 19. Now they don’t much like him in low fat raw vegan land.

Erin thought he had done every vegan thing right and found that:

About a year and a half into it, I started to get weak, mentally, though this didn’t become apparent to me for years. I was extremely susceptible to stress. Anything would get to me, and I had to learn about self-mastery and breathing techniques and all that shit. It’s funny, because I was saying I was eating a raw vegan diet because it was “natural”, but here I was depending upon all these “unnatural” techniques. It never occurred to me that mental strength should come naturally. I just thought today’s world was too hectic.

I would skip school a lot, because just the thought of getting out of bed made me anxious some days. Speaking of the bed, I also had some difficulty sleeping once in a while around my second year of LFRV. Not only was my sleep too light, I also had difficulty falling asleep, since I had to shift my legs all the time. I would later learn that this is a medical condition called Restless Legs Syndrome, a neurological problem. (I’m looking at you, B-12! Why weren’t you formed in my gut as promised?)

You can read Erin’s full impressive interview at: Let Them Eat Meat – Interview With an Ex-Vegan: Erim Bilgin

Comments from raw paleo dieters:

“That is one very intelligent young man. His ability to deduct is most impressive and often reserved for people 2-3 times his age. I’ll admit to some envy.”


“Wonderful interview, thanks for sharing this.

There is a raw potluck in my area, and last summer I emailed its organizer and asked to be added to the group’s email list. I couldn’t make the next couple (scheduled once per month), but was able to attend one in late July. I figured it was a raw vegan group even though they didn’t explicitly advertise themselves as such, so I brought a vegan raw dish (fruit salad) with a mind to mingle and see what the group was like.

It was a fascinating experience. There were about 30 people there, all in very poor health except the “leader” who was about 20 and had only been a raw vegan for about a year. I didn’t blurt out that I was a raw omnivore, but during discussions with a few people I did let it slip that I ate animal foods and while chatting with an older gentleman (who looked 30 years older than he actually was, it turned out) I let it slip that, in fact, raw animal fat was the single most important part of my diet and that I got 80-90 percent of my calories from raw animal foods. He was at once distraught and shocked, as when we first sat down together he complimented me on my exquisite skin complexion and the “Buddhistic” presence I carried. He attributed it to the raw vegan diet (that I didn’t follow), of course.

By the end of the four hour potluck everyone in the room knew that I wasn’t vegan. While they would certainly have attacked me if they had the anonymity of the internet in their favor, no one said anything hostile to me in person. One young woman kept looking at me as if she was just begging me to ask for her number, although she was so emaciated that I didn’t find her remotely attractive. After that potluck the “leader” removed my name from his email list, and no longer responded to my requests to be put back on.

Just as well. Once I finish my dissertation and have a little more time, I’m toying with the idea of starting a RVAF potluck in my area. I think there would be interest, as there are a lot of foodies around here.”

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